Thanks for bringing it up. It's interesting that thyroid autoimmunity is also part of fibromyalgia. I looked up the reference you cited and it said: "The percentage of women in menopause was higher in thyroid autoantibody positive fibromyalgia patients." Unless those women were on HRT, the cause of their thyroid autoimmunity in fibromyalgia would not likely be 2-methoxyestradiol, as it is low after menopause.
There is a common factor in some cases of FMS, menopause, and autoimmune dysfunction: Ferroptosis.
How significant it is requires further study.
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Ferroptosis in Osteocytes as a Target for Protection Against Postmenopausal Osteoporosis
"... Ferroptosis is a necrotic form of iron-dependent regulatory cell death. Estrogen withdrawal can interfere with iron metabolism, which is responsible for the pathogenesis of postmenopausal osteoporosis (PMOP)."
Tetyana, a common cause of autoimmunity is vaccines contaminated with homologous xenogeneic antigens. They break immune tolerance and induce autoimmunity.
I believe that if this respondent intends to claim that autoimmunity is the "common" result of vaccine contamination with homologous xenogeneic antigens, it is incumbent upon him to demonstrate this fact with citations other than his own. I have searched the National Library of Medicine and was unable to locate even a single theoretical study making such a claim.
I am aware of “vaccine-induced auto-immunity” in the NLM. He is referring specifically to “homologous xenogeneic antigens” as “common” contaminants. I do not believe this is correct.
You might be right. Homologous xenogeneic antigens are being used in the development of cancer vaccines, but not in conventional vaccines. I suspect Vinu might have meant cross-reactivity between some vaccine antigens and human proteins based on sequence homology.
Tetyana, animal proteins are homologous xenogeneic antigens and they contaminate most vaccines. And sequence homology of human to fungal/plant proteins that contaminate vaccines.
Vinu, I would be genuinely interested to know if there's any vaccine that you think may contain a truly homologous xenogeneic antigen for TPO or Tg as a contaminant of vaccine manufacturing process. I can't think of any, as there's no animal thyroid tissue added to vaccines as far as I know, but I would consider the evidence or even a theoretical possibility if you point me toward it. To be clear, I am asking about homologous xenogeneic antigens and not about cross-reactivity due to short stretches of sequence homology with unrelated proteins.
Actually, I do not believe he can think further than his obsession with vaccine contaminants. He is a well-known anti-vaccine proponent who takes every opportunity to hijack reasonable topics such as yours to promote his agenda. I just happened to stumble across your posting as my sister-in-law recently died from thyroid cancer, only to see he had imposed himself into your post.
I am sorry about your sister-in-law, Dr. Stankovich. I welcome any reasonable and respectful comments from both vaccine proponents and opponents. I have issues with unintended antigens that contaminate some vaccines (more specifically, baker's yeast antigen in HepB, which affected my gut health), so I understand some of Vinu's concerns, but this post wasn't about vaccines.
Heard of animal proteins? Bovine, porcine, African Green Monkey, Madin-Darby Canine Kidney cell proteins, Chinese Hamster Ovary (CHO) cell proteins, chicken/egg proteins, all contaminate vaccines. Thus the explosion of autoimmune diseases including autism and atherosclerosis.
I warned the FDA in 2017 that CHO cell protein contaminated SHINGRIX will cause autoimmune diseases. They ignored me. It came true. The FDA included a warning about GBS – an autoimmune disease, induced by SHINGRIX, in 2021. Now for the same reason, the warning has been added to RSV vaccines.
Unfortunately for you, I am the one who authored the first paper on that topic.
Cancer immunology, bioinformatics and chemokine evidence link vaccines contaminated with animal proteins to autoimmune disease: a detailed look at Crohn's disease and Vitiligo
I will not address you on the site of someone who has clearly indicated the topic was not vaccines. Your rudeness is tiresome & citationless. If there is an “explosion” of autoimmune disease related to animal protein contamination of vaccines, why is there nothing - particularly you - in the NLM? I have asked you any number of times: why do you not submit to peer reviewed journals? It is because you are not a scientist. That is all I have to say.
I have had of enough of your telling me I do not understand, or I am a fool, or you are going to teach me medical research, or I am a murderer, or any of the ridiculous insults you have said to me here and elsewhere.
First, I am a forensic psychiatrist and have never vaccinated anyone, child or adult. Secondly, as I am sure you already figured by your post of the "conflict of interest" article from JAMA, where my name is prominently missing from the "OpenPaymentData.gov" site, I have NEVER, even ONCE, accepted a dime, a pen, a calendar, a meal, a golf outing, a trip, a vacation, NOTHING, from a pharmaceutical company. NEVER.
You are posing as I scientist, and I have absolutely no qualms or regrets for demanding that, if you intend to "end the vaccination industry as we know it," as you have said elsewhere, then I will continue to demand you respond LIKE A SCIENTIST. I am a compassionate individual, and I am truly sorry for what you say happened to your son. But I am unwilling to tolerate your rudeness, your fundamental lack of respect for hosts you invade, and your projection of your own garbage on the unsuspecting and those who, literally, you feel somehow deserve being ridiculed by you, simply because they exist. Enough from you.
Even if you did not inject anything into anyone, you are defending, aiding, abetting those who have maimed and killed millions while insulting their victims.
If your corrupted NLM had the truth, we would not be having this discussion. We would not have a $4.3T/yr chronic disease epidemic. If your corrupted "medical science" had not injured my son, I would not be wasting my life studying immunology. I am an engineer. You "medical professionals" specialize in adding insult to iatrogenic injury.
My 30 year old daughter has hashimotos and fibromyalgia. I have hashimotos. I think my mouth full of mercury fillings ( now replaced) had an influence on my hashimotos. Interestingly my blood values improved after taking EDTA.
A lot of fibromyalgia sufferers also have TPO autoAbs:
https://doorlesscarp953.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-and-lnp-mrna-platform?open=false#%C2%A7tpo-autoantibodies-and-fms
Thanks for bringing it up. It's interesting that thyroid autoimmunity is also part of fibromyalgia. I looked up the reference you cited and it said: "The percentage of women in menopause was higher in thyroid autoantibody positive fibromyalgia patients." Unless those women were on HRT, the cause of their thyroid autoimmunity in fibromyalgia would not likely be 2-methoxyestradiol, as it is low after menopause.
There is a common factor in some cases of FMS, menopause, and autoimmune dysfunction: Ferroptosis.
How significant it is requires further study.
***
Ferroptosis in Osteocytes as a Target for Protection Against Postmenopausal Osteoporosis
"... Ferroptosis is a necrotic form of iron-dependent regulatory cell death. Estrogen withdrawal can interfere with iron metabolism, which is responsible for the pathogenesis of postmenopausal osteoporosis (PMOP)."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38233202/
Tetyana, a common cause of autoimmunity is vaccines contaminated with homologous xenogeneic antigens. They break immune tolerance and induce autoimmunity.
https://zenodo.org/records/1034769
https://zenodo.org/records/1435404
I believe that if this respondent intends to claim that autoimmunity is the "common" result of vaccine contamination with homologous xenogeneic antigens, it is incumbent upon him to demonstrate this fact with citations other than his own. I have searched the National Library of Medicine and was unable to locate even a single theoretical study making such a claim.
Have you tried searching "vaccine-induced autoimmunity"? There are quite a few publications. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Vaccine-induced%20autoimmunity
I am aware of “vaccine-induced auto-immunity” in the NLM. He is referring specifically to “homologous xenogeneic antigens” as “common” contaminants. I do not believe this is correct.
You might be right. Homologous xenogeneic antigens are being used in the development of cancer vaccines, but not in conventional vaccines. I suspect Vinu might have meant cross-reactivity between some vaccine antigens and human proteins based on sequence homology.
Tetyana, animal proteins are homologous xenogeneic antigens and they contaminate most vaccines. And sequence homology of human to fungal/plant proteins that contaminate vaccines.
Vinu, I would be genuinely interested to know if there's any vaccine that you think may contain a truly homologous xenogeneic antigen for TPO or Tg as a contaminant of vaccine manufacturing process. I can't think of any, as there's no animal thyroid tissue added to vaccines as far as I know, but I would consider the evidence or even a theoretical possibility if you point me toward it. To be clear, I am asking about homologous xenogeneic antigens and not about cross-reactivity due to short stretches of sequence homology with unrelated proteins.
Actually, I do not believe he can think further than his obsession with vaccine contaminants. He is a well-known anti-vaccine proponent who takes every opportunity to hijack reasonable topics such as yours to promote his agenda. I just happened to stumble across your posting as my sister-in-law recently died from thyroid cancer, only to see he had imposed himself into your post.
I am sorry about your sister-in-law, Dr. Stankovich. I welcome any reasonable and respectful comments from both vaccine proponents and opponents. I have issues with unintended antigens that contaminate some vaccines (more specifically, baker's yeast antigen in HepB, which affected my gut health), so I understand some of Vinu's concerns, but this post wasn't about vaccines.
"his obsession with vaccine contaminants"
They caused the $4.3T/yr chronic disease epidemic.
Animal protein contamination = autoimmunity epidemic including autism/ atherosclerosis. Thus making vaccines the #1 killer.
Aeroallergen/food protein contamination = food allergy/seasonal allergy/asthma epidemics.
If you are not "obsessed" with vaccine contaminants, you need your head examined.
Heard of animal proteins? Bovine, porcine, African Green Monkey, Madin-Darby Canine Kidney cell proteins, Chinese Hamster Ovary (CHO) cell proteins, chicken/egg proteins, all contaminate vaccines. Thus the explosion of autoimmune diseases including autism and atherosclerosis.
I warned the FDA in 2017 that CHO cell protein contaminated SHINGRIX will cause autoimmune diseases. They ignored me. It came true. The FDA included a warning about GBS – an autoimmune disease, induced by SHINGRIX, in 2021. Now for the same reason, the warning has been added to RSV vaccines.
Unfortunately for you, I am the one who authored the first paper on that topic.
Cancer immunology, bioinformatics and chemokine evidence link vaccines contaminated with animal proteins to autoimmune disease: a detailed look at Crohn's disease and Vitiligo
https://zenodo.org/records/1407617
https://vinuarumugham.substack.com/p/the-pharma-corrupted-american-association-e1a
I will not address you on the site of someone who has clearly indicated the topic was not vaccines. Your rudeness is tiresome & citationless. If there is an “explosion” of autoimmune disease related to animal protein contamination of vaccines, why is there nothing - particularly you - in the NLM? I have asked you any number of times: why do you not submit to peer reviewed journals? It is because you are not a scientist. That is all I have to say.
Corrupted "peer reviewed journals" don't like the truth. Too hard for you to understand.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2824834
I have had of enough of your telling me I do not understand, or I am a fool, or you are going to teach me medical research, or I am a murderer, or any of the ridiculous insults you have said to me here and elsewhere.
First, I am a forensic psychiatrist and have never vaccinated anyone, child or adult. Secondly, as I am sure you already figured by your post of the "conflict of interest" article from JAMA, where my name is prominently missing from the "OpenPaymentData.gov" site, I have NEVER, even ONCE, accepted a dime, a pen, a calendar, a meal, a golf outing, a trip, a vacation, NOTHING, from a pharmaceutical company. NEVER.
If you want to know my experience with ASD children and young adolescents, go here: https://larivierre.substack.com/p/what-if-the-dsm-5-got-autism-wrong/comment/110499582.
You are posing as I scientist, and I have absolutely no qualms or regrets for demanding that, if you intend to "end the vaccination industry as we know it," as you have said elsewhere, then I will continue to demand you respond LIKE A SCIENTIST. I am a compassionate individual, and I am truly sorry for what you say happened to your son. But I am unwilling to tolerate your rudeness, your fundamental lack of respect for hosts you invade, and your projection of your own garbage on the unsuspecting and those who, literally, you feel somehow deserve being ridiculed by you, simply because they exist. Enough from you.
Even if you did not inject anything into anyone, you are defending, aiding, abetting those who have maimed and killed millions while insulting their victims.
If your corrupted NLM had the truth, we would not be having this discussion. We would not have a $4.3T/yr chronic disease epidemic. If your corrupted "medical science" had not injured my son, I would not be wasting my life studying immunology. I am an engineer. You "medical professionals" specialize in adding insult to iatrogenic injury.
https://vinuarumugham.substack.com/p/cows-milk-protein-contaminated-vaccines
My 30 year old daughter has hashimotos and fibromyalgia. I have hashimotos. I think my mouth full of mercury fillings ( now replaced) had an influence on my hashimotos. Interestingly my blood values improved after taking EDTA.
There's some good info on the use of black seed oil in Hashimoto's in this article: https://thyroidpharmacist.com/articles/black-seed-oil-and-hashimotos
Thank you for providing the dietary recommendations.
Well Hashiomtos is a lack of iodine and other nutrients like selenium and B vitamins. (Dr David Brownstein and Dr Jorge Flechas YT).